HATE - Final Update and Questions - Part 2

 with that i guess it's easy to save from fight to fight which is pretty cool i still think maybe the magnets would work better they did it's in chaos bowl and i thought it worked pretty well that it was a clan game too by Eric of C Mon so I don't know, I guess we will see about that idea and very interesting mercenaries, so these are the units that can replace the unit of the falling tribe or that you just want to replace and come with our certain preset abilities must being met the conditions to add them now this brings me to my first lingering questions how are we hiring these mercenaries, then in the Facebook update on the tyrant for example who is a huge guy with similar skulls and hooks like everyone down for a lifetime and you know it looks really cool and it's really big and i think it's important in the graphic novel however it talks about how it will only follow the strong means that is you you know that d do you fight him or he is appearing in the fight and you know h is like an NPC if I have to fight him and he is outside of the fight it means that another person is controlling him like an APC another person does not play I do not know how it works or it just is roll the dice again to solve a test that would be against super boring hey you want this big expensive guy well you have to roll three or more in strength woohoo i mean i don't know i guess it would work and it makes sense and it might work better than some alternatives I quickly came up with them from the top of my head, but first of all I hope they designed this not just from the top of their head and that they can do something more exciting than throwing a 3 plus to get this awesome tyrant so we will see that their abilities also say they come pre-made with abilities are these unique abilities or is it just that the tyrant is a certain type of character because if it is a coincidence maybe my s to champion warrior I happen to build the same way so is essentially another champion n warrior with no differences or is it with unique abilities that they were the tyrant is the tyrant and is different from everyone else i would much prefer it and this is

what i hope they have their own unique abilities and each of these mercenaries is different than anyone else you may have so you can decide if it's worth it or if you also like what you have built how designer credits will work so much in Eric Lang and BoardGameGeek Minus mentions him and other articles do too and he's pretty much ahead of the game development over there so at least he oversees everything but they also mentioned you know Alex all High Noah I can't pronounce his last name I apologize they mentioned that you know the creators of huge Dartmouths and zombicides so it's a group effort where everyone participates in either this ad or a guy puts most of it in and if so it's sixty percent or ninety percent more, how do you think so if he is mainly a person you will say this guy and if so he will be in the sixties or nineties right is it really that boy is he a game or not or if you just say a game or Ceylon and you don't actually put a name on it, now we're getting to the point where the industry is moving more towards corporate games rather than people or is it a specific person and you know it will be interested to see what the pros are. and the cons of this type of development for so long we have really been developing games just with you you know one or two people you really know who run it and they walk away and 90% is what happens when everyone gets to add some makes that brings it all up and down or down and makes things not unique I don't know what answers are not interesting to see both how much it actually was if we found out, but in addition how they credit maybe every Seamon game in the next future will be an Eric Lang game and it will become synonymous with C Mon, I don't know so it would also be interesting the price of how much it will cost onKi ckstarter now when it comes to Kickstarter there is the base price you know to get the main box plus the stretch lenses and then there is the final price if you want it all and it can be hundreds of dollars different, so what will this be I don't foresee it will be the huge darkness that was 120 dollars anymore, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was $ 100 which was for Rising Sun which was another recent they had, so it may be that they are

assuming that everything we have seen all components all miniatures are part of the main game it would be really rough to release a mini elastic target or an additional from many leading to this this is not how the main box game is advertised as it seems to me strange however this is only a two player game and not everyone wants to spend $ 300 for two players you know i mean it's ok i mean the table goes way beyond so i'm not saying you can't i'm just saying i don't know if it's necessarily what they will go in addition to i don't know how much you can't expand this i haven't read graphic novels but my understanding is there are some factions and types of people you could add to but how much in total i don't know i don't know if you know and maybe they focus more on component upgrades although usually those are elastic lenses anyway so I don't know it will be interesting to see, pr and i guess they are at least a Kickstarter exclusive tribe, i wouldn't be surprised grown for this this is C Mon and they tend to do it i wouldn't be surprised if there are other tribes you can add and maybe they can make some as mercenary packs although maybe those are all elastic goals because you remember they have to do it in stretch goals too so much of what would normally be you know an add could just be a stretch goal and in fact hate could be one, i will be a one off game in other words i am not planning on you knowing how to add more purchases over and over and then instead it's maybe you just have different levels and they will do it as you know a lot of other companies do where it's like you could go back to a hundred or you can go back to 200 and they come with different things I don't know it will be interesting to see too we have seen many miniatures but now they are all humanoids okay and I'm not sorry but I'm interested to see if there is they'll have non-humanoid miniatures that you know they've had kind of a minute it's kind of like a boy and they've had the clay man and stuff, but they're still humanoid, there will be like some weird monster that wouldn't be interesting to know in addition the playing time how long will it take for this game is it a 4 hour game or is it a 30 minute game if it depends on how many fights or

battles you do how long does a battle last? legacy game where the chronicle is as it takes 20 hours to complete in each fight they are several hours or maybe you know some kind of quick battles and you have to go back to your village in any battle and they have to go to your hear cheating on ogen and it is more a combat phase than a battle in itself or in other words as the scenario is not like a whole game in and of itself I don't know what brings me to my last lingering question and this is the campaign mode stuck as if it was now story mode for massive darkness I would be worried about that, well not worried but I would question it anyway, I am worried because as I said in story mode for massive darkness massive darkness is really a thought game to be played with unique scenarios and then they made it able to play a story but that's not quite how you should write it just it doesn't work well enough it's not that lean not it is by no means balanced so it has not even been tested for play you know how tight the other version is and so you know this brings some concern to this question i suppose but basically it does too this is a skirmish game or this campaign game campaign means a story or it just means choosing small skirmishes because the article they mentioned was about how everything was essentially two people deciding how many fights they would have and that is the chronicle and then they choose the scenarios, so it means let's say that there it's five scenarios scenario 1 2 3 4 & 5 and those are the different map layouts and the right missions and then you know it so it was a Joe Schmo and say hey Joe you want to play you know three three battles and he is like no you know the battles they are all for us play two and play for four hours so i say alright i will choose clash or scenario two and five and that's it, it's not necessarily a campaign mode i mean for if it is or is you know what it is two hours let's play only two and if it's just a fair one if it's just a skirmish how mercenaries work there how a village works when you really go into effect there how do i build skills is there a way to play with a single skirmish or a skirmish that only lasts ten minutes and doesn't work t

so it matters some of that space out of game time, but some of it is really based on how they are designing the game and you can get it right both a fantasy flight games star wars imperial assault is a great game both as a skirmish and as a campaign in a campaign it has multiple missions which are all unique that have a story that works with a progression that works or as a skirmish game it has a completely different set of rules that works really well as a skirmish game so it can do both and you too are just interested to see if it works like that, if it's more or less strictly a campaign mode or if it's better to just play as a skirmish anyway guys, those are a little bit of my myths my latest update and just a little 'persistent questions I have if you enjoyed this video please give a thumbs up I would always appreciate that it helps the channel and you know it makes me feel warm and confused inside if you are interested in d more hate updates I will post one on the 16th when the Kickstarter goes liv I am trying to answer these questions and updating with additional information where they are heading with extended goals how they are funding all that type of thing with updates disseminated as it goes Also I do many more board game reviews which I have many coming up especially next month in February as well as a miniature painting hobby so sign up if you want to see more of the genre I will post a lot there too if you really want to support beyond that you can go to my patreon starts at $ 1 per month, that is 12 per year, but from there it increases depending on the type of support or perks you want, so I vote

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